12g F Class
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12g F Class
So here is my 12g F Class shotgun.
A couple of months back I called Ovenpaa to let him know a £50 bolt action shotgun would be arriving the next day and asked him to do what he could to it to try and eek out any accuracy potential and also to try and fit a Picatiney rail for a scope.
The beast that arrived was in my understanding fun to work on but had to be handled with care, despite being over 50 years old, this thing still had teeth!
I was disappointed to hear that the firing pin was all but in unusable condition, I had bought this as a working gun, and that the magazine release lever was only just hanging in there. Thankfully Ovenpaa went beyond by brief and checked the gun over before giving it back and ended up spending a day putting things right that we should have been able to have assumed were OK. It was only a £50 gun though so I am not going to throw any mud around.
Ovenpaa was amused at the barrel being a nats do da over 24". I am still not convinced that on Sec 1 single barrel shotgun that length matters, however I have no idea how the length, short or long will affect the accuracy.
I have to point out a couple of items that may not be obvious at first glance.
The accessory rail is inletted and is parallel to the barrel. This is a beautifully bit of craftsmanship and shows how accomplished Ovenpaa is with wood as well as shiny metal. You will note the 5 bolts which have all been properly inserted. He could have used wood screws ass many would have, but not Ovenpaa, if the job is worth doing lets do it right.
The next item was the Picatiney rail. Thankfully a ral with 20moa was chosen, I guess we could have doubled that and added a bit again for the distance that I want to get this to, but for off the rail (no pun intended) I am grateful for 20 moa.
The more observant of you will notice that it has been cut away to exactly conform to the shape of the ejection port. Essential that during a competition the shells are being extracted cleanly. We always knew that this was going to be a scout scope set up, or long eye relief set up, so I am grateful for the extra rail on the receiver to stiffen things up a bit bore. It might just be possible to mount a ring right at the back, but it will again need some precise engineering to make it fit, thankfully I know just the person to do this.
Ovenpaa also found the rear but pad had cracked and was in pretty poor over all condition, thankfully he had another and fitted it at the same time as the bag rider. More shiny metal on the gun but hopefully more than just bling. I have not used one before so will have to see how I get on with it.
The Bi-pod is one of Ovenpaa's F Class models and is a item of beauty, engineering and finish. Any questions about these you will have to contact him direct, I believe I got the last one out of a run of 12!
More to come,
DM
A couple of months back I called Ovenpaa to let him know a £50 bolt action shotgun would be arriving the next day and asked him to do what he could to it to try and eek out any accuracy potential and also to try and fit a Picatiney rail for a scope.
The beast that arrived was in my understanding fun to work on but had to be handled with care, despite being over 50 years old, this thing still had teeth!
I was disappointed to hear that the firing pin was all but in unusable condition, I had bought this as a working gun, and that the magazine release lever was only just hanging in there. Thankfully Ovenpaa went beyond by brief and checked the gun over before giving it back and ended up spending a day putting things right that we should have been able to have assumed were OK. It was only a £50 gun though so I am not going to throw any mud around.
Ovenpaa was amused at the barrel being a nats do da over 24". I am still not convinced that on Sec 1 single barrel shotgun that length matters, however I have no idea how the length, short or long will affect the accuracy.
I have to point out a couple of items that may not be obvious at first glance.
The accessory rail is inletted and is parallel to the barrel. This is a beautifully bit of craftsmanship and shows how accomplished Ovenpaa is with wood as well as shiny metal. You will note the 5 bolts which have all been properly inserted. He could have used wood screws ass many would have, but not Ovenpaa, if the job is worth doing lets do it right.
The next item was the Picatiney rail. Thankfully a ral with 20moa was chosen, I guess we could have doubled that and added a bit again for the distance that I want to get this to, but for off the rail (no pun intended) I am grateful for 20 moa.
The more observant of you will notice that it has been cut away to exactly conform to the shape of the ejection port. Essential that during a competition the shells are being extracted cleanly. We always knew that this was going to be a scout scope set up, or long eye relief set up, so I am grateful for the extra rail on the receiver to stiffen things up a bit bore. It might just be possible to mount a ring right at the back, but it will again need some precise engineering to make it fit, thankfully I know just the person to do this.
Ovenpaa also found the rear but pad had cracked and was in pretty poor over all condition, thankfully he had another and fitted it at the same time as the bag rider. More shiny metal on the gun but hopefully more than just bling. I have not used one before so will have to see how I get on with it.
The Bi-pod is one of Ovenpaa's F Class models and is a item of beauty, engineering and finish. Any questions about these you will have to contact him direct, I believe I got the last one out of a run of 12!
More to come,
DM
Re: 12g F Class
It'll either be a Mossberg or a Marlin - both designs are very similartechguy wrote:I *really* like the look of this! What is the make of the gun?
The 24" minimum length rule applies to pump action and semi auto shotguns...OTHER shotgun types with sub-24" barrels would be allowed, but ONLY held on an FAC as a S.1 gun. (whereas a pump/semi with a barrel less than 24" is a Section 5 gun)Dangermoose wrote: Ovenpaa was amused at the barrel being a nats do da over 24". I am still not convinced that on Sec 1 single barrel shotgun that length matters
As this gun IS already a S.1 due to the removable magazines, then it may be possible in the future to have the barrel shortened
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Mention shotguns with short barrels in County Durham and the blue meanies have a dicky fit and swoon. Absolutely verboten for no good reason other than 'we don't allow them'!!!
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Apologies for the poor editing of the original post, I was doing 101 things with little time.
The shotgun is a Stevens also sold under Savage, possibly a 58 or 68 model. Now on train to work, can not check.
The magazines are only 2 shot which makes this a 2+1. Unbelievably. I have managed to get. 2 more in the UK from a dealer who did not know what they were. This has been lucky as I found out that the original magazine does not, eject the shells - just a matter of changing the angle of the feed lips, but should they break I have a spare,
DM
The shotgun is a Stevens also sold under Savage, possibly a 58 or 68 model. Now on train to work, can not check.
The magazines are only 2 shot which makes this a 2+1. Unbelievably. I have managed to get. 2 more in the UK from a dealer who did not know what they were. This has been lucky as I found out that the original magazine does not, eject the shells - just a matter of changing the angle of the feed lips, but should they break I have a spare,
DM
Re: 12g F Class
I'm tempted to do something similar, but with a S2 semi-auto as I don't have a spare S1 slot..... then just need to use it for something!
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Like it!
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Re: 12g F Class
Can't you just apply for a high capacity shotgun to get the slot for an S1?dodgyrog wrote:Mention shotguns with short barrels in County Durham and the blue meanies have a dicky fit and swoon. Absolutely verboten for no good reason other than 'we don't allow them'!!!
As long as the 'reason' for needing one (Shotty F Class etc) doesn't change, and the gun's legal (i.e. not a pump or semi) - what has the barrel length got to do with them?
Get the slot, buy a bolt shotgun with a 12" barrel, done!
Re: 12g F Class
The Law Guide Section 3.2 Subsection 3 states something along the lines of a section 1 firearm barrel length must not be less than 30cms with an overall length of not less than 60cms and this does apply to S1 shotguns. My FEO has confirmed this and you do not need to justify the length either. obviously stating a bolt action S1 with a 14" barrel is for clay shooting is going to attract attention...
The build of this F Class thing was interesting and good fun as well, the 'scope rail is a real 'lets see how this goes' thing and I am confident we can get a reasonable eye relief 'scope on with some inspired machining of the rear ring, also the bolt handle is quite well canted however it may need modifying slightly to clear the underside of a 'scope depending on height of rings.
I must admit the whole thing went together very nicely considering it was a bit of an experiment and I was pleased with the way the front rail went in. I dislike the idea of just using a couple of wood screws to hold rails in place and instead I machine and fit pillars tapped M5 and glue them in with JB Weld or similar, they will never jack or pull out unlike some of the rails I have seen recently.
The build of this F Class thing was interesting and good fun as well, the 'scope rail is a real 'lets see how this goes' thing and I am confident we can get a reasonable eye relief 'scope on with some inspired machining of the rear ring, also the bolt handle is quite well canted however it may need modifying slightly to clear the underside of a 'scope depending on height of rings.
I must admit the whole thing went together very nicely considering it was a bit of an experiment and I was pleased with the way the front rail went in. I dislike the idea of just using a couple of wood screws to hold rails in place and instead I machine and fit pillars tapped M5 and glue them in with JB Weld or similar, they will never jack or pull out unlike some of the rails I have seen recently.
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