Buying and Receiving a gun.

[arko]

I have a question about the procedure after purchasing a gun.
I agree to purchase a shotgun from Mr.X in Aberdeen. I live in Wales. Too far to drive so the only ways ahead are RFD to RFD or Face to Face.
Now apparently RFD to RFD's prices vary accordingly and the price of fuel for me to make a Face to Face visit would be way too much. But even if I did make the Face to Face sale, who would fill in my SGC ? The FLO ?. Its simpler with an RFD as they would do it all for you. Is it just a case of me taking the gun along to the police station that issued my certificate and have the officer dealing with the firearms department fill it in?
Also what sort of price would you be looking at to send a gun through a local RFD ?.

[mag41uk]

The seller fills in your certificate.
Off hand,and without looking,I think the info is on the certificate.
The "police station" probably wouldnt be interested.
In fact if you already had the gun and an unfilled in cert you would be asking for trouble,as would the seller!
An RFD typically about £15 to £30. Depends on how well you know him.
Tony

[IainWR]

For any transaction, the person passing the gun to you fills in Table 2 of your SGC in accordance with the instructions at the top of that page. That applies whether they hold the gun on SGC or RFD or VSP or something else (can't think of any others but I may well have missed something). The admin reason for RFD to RFD is that an RFD has the privilege of making entries in their own register, so it is physically possible to do the deal remotely. Technically it is a four-stage process with each stage involving a face-to-face transfer. Seller to RFD 1; RFD 1 to licensed carrier; licensed carrier to RFD 2; RFD 2 to buyer.

Can't speak for any other RFD, but from 1 Jan the NRA will charge £15 to receive a gun from another RFD, store it for up to 1 month, and issue it to the new owner. We generally don't ship guns out. Obviously it would cost you the carrier fee and the cost of packing and an admin fee on top of the purchase price - you might not "pay" that explicitly depending on the deal you come to with the original seller, but one way or another you will be meeting the costs.

[arko]

So basically, myself and the seller (private) agree upon a price, I pay and then he takes the weapon to his local RFD? I pay any costs that may incur through his RFD?. Then I contact my local RFD about the forthcoming delivery and pay him a fee to receive the gun and fill out the cert?
Does that just about sum it up?
Are there any alternative methods or is it advisable to stick with RFD's ?

[arko]

By the way... thanks for the answers already given!

[dromia]

Transactions have to be face to face, as you cannot meet with the seller then it has to be done through RFDs as they can move firearms around between each other on exchange of RFD certificates so that they can complete their registers and the recipient RFD can then sign it onto your SGC.

If an SGC holder friend of your was in the sellers area then they could take the gun off the seller for you have the seller enter it on your friends SGC and then your friend transfer it to your SGC when you meet up with them and you take possession of the shotgun.

[IainWR]

Thanks for that Dromia, not being familiar with shotguns had missed that obvious route. Note that it doesn't generally work for S1 firearms because of the need for an authorisation to possess the specific type of gun, whereas a shotgun certificate holder can have s2 guns almost without restriction - and if I have understood correctly, if they have the gun for less than 72 hours, they don't need to make any certificate entries or tell the police, though maybe that doesn't work if you get the gun from person A and dispose of it to person B? Dromia?

[Christel]

Would like to add that when used for sporting purposes your bangstick is not referred to as a "weapon", it is a gun, rifle, shotgun, whatever, just not weapon.

I know that is what the police calls it, they are wrong.

A weapon is used to inflict harm, shooting to us is a sport.

[Alpha1]

Would like to add that when used for sporting purposes your bangstick is not referred to as a "weapon", it is a gun, rifle, shotgun, whatever, just not weapon.

I know that is what the police calls it, they are wrong.

A weapon is used to inflict harm, shooting to us is a sport.

Yes very important I all ways make a point of refering to them as firearms.

[Blu]

Christel,

A weapon is used to inflict harm, shooting to us is a sport.

So what's it called when it's used for hunting? After all hunting is inflicting harm on an animal. Hey just asking

Blu