Bora 99 Ramble/Review/Info

[Blackstuff]

Do not put heat near the stock. A b****** cut file roughs the material out followed by a block of wood cut to size with some fairy coarse wet and dry to finish it off. The well mouth can be blended to a smooth flare to guide the magazines in.

Cutting the stock and machining a block to suit should be straight froward enough however until you make the cut it is hard to say exactly how the job is going to work out. I will have a look if I can get my hands on a spare lower.

This video shows how to do the MKA1919 stock (and pistol grip)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_do0jL_ ... CZX_x8UOwJ[/youtube]

[breacher]

Shown in the video below;

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zBRlisU ... VZ5-smnybA[/youtube]

Thanks for that.

So, it looks like a "traditional" semi auto gas system then ?

I was just wondering if the similarity to the M16 was more than just cosmetic - ie, as in the Vepr / Saiga where they use the same basic gas system as the AK / RPD from which they are derived.

[Blackstuff]

No thank god its a gas ram system (like an AK) rather than a direct impingement system like an AR :shakeshout:

[paulbradley]

Great review. Just put in for a section 1 shotgun myself so this gives food for thought..

[techguy]

Hey Mark,

Have you shot this since your initial review? Will be interesting to know how you're getting on with it... also, did you do any further mods to the BHO/magwell?

TG

[Blackstuff]

I shot a practice match with it on Saturday and it worked great! I had one failure to fire which looked like a light strike on the primer but it was a Geco slug which have been know to have hard primers. Shot about 150 carts through it over the practice.

Some of the stages were shot from inside a hut and there was little sunshine anyway with the thick fog and the gun was very 'sparky', should make shooting it left shouldered 'interesting' :lol:

http://s1023.photobucket.com/user/Breas ... 7.mp4.html

I noticed i was considerably slower at shooting it than with my Benelli but that can be attributed to 1/ it being a new gun 2/ using a sight instead of a bead 3/ me having a trapped nerve in my shoulder.

I've filed the mag well to the point that both the 5 and 10rd magazines will drop free on a closed bolt but the bolt hold open tab on the magazine still stops an empty mag dropping free. To be fair if you're shooting the stage properly you should never run the gun dry anyway so it shouldn't be much of an issue.

I've since added a 'tactical sporran' to my belt (magazine dump pouch) in place of the magazine pouch on my right hip and that allows me to drop mags in without having to worry about damaging them dropping them on hard surfaces or gunking them up in mud (essential IMHO).

[techguy]

Wow.. that is sparky! Looks like great fun though :)

Hoping my variation goes through so I can get my M2 and a BR99!

[Grima]

The Yankee Doodles that are currently making after market parts for both guns have said that it would be a bad idea to try it with the Bora as the part of the stock you have to cut is hollow, as opposed to being solid on the MK1919. Have a look on the Saiga12 forum theres some info there.

A guy in the UK has done this (see video below) but unfortunately he never replies to any comments/questions on Youtube and neither does he describe how he's managed to do it (either safely or legally). You need an overall length on a semi S1 shotgun of 40", and if you measure the Bora that measurement is well into the buttstock. Adding a folding stock would definitely take you into Section 5/prohibited territory but you might JUST get away with a sliding stock (M4 type as shown in the video).

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPbL2L0I ... 413Ke2Drt6[/youtube]

It should also be noted that the measurement of length for a normal AR-15 is taken from the tip of the buffer tube NOT the heel of the stock if a sliding/collapsible unit is on, as the butt pad/stock can be easily removed and still allow the gun to work, but if you took the buffer tube off it wouldn't. Where as if you removed the buffer tube on a Bora (or MKA1919 for that matter) it would still work as the bolt is retained in the receiver, it doesn't need the tube to work. The only way it would still be legal is if whoever was measuring/making the decision thought that because the buffer tube takes tools to remove it can be counted as part of the gun. I'm assuming that the guy above and the people who have put them on their MKA1919s are working on this premise

My BR is 40 3/4in from the end of the buffer tube (no butt stock) to the end of the barrel.

I also added another bolt that runs through the buffer tube & the stock adapter. So a number of tools are required to remove it.

Any pump or gas operated semi only requires a screw driver to remove the butt stock & they can be fired & reloaded without the butt attached. Be careful what you post the laws are bad enough. The weapon is only intended only to be fired with the butt stock on.

Straight pull AR's can be fired & reloaded without a buffer tube attached (just a return spring in the tube) It would simply be a bolt action. fire, pull back, push forward. Like I said be careful what you post.

If I was stupid enough, I could remove the "one" screw that holds the butt stock on to my 12g S/S shotgun & fire it, as that isn't required to load fire & reload.

Don't give the anti-gun gimps any ammo.

[dromia]

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[StangGT]

Just wondered how the reliability on these was panning out... I was at PSG today, talking to a few guys that had (or had had) Akdals. Universally, they were proclaimed as 'fun but unreliable'... How to the Boras fare?