A shotgun barrel on its own - status ?

[Chuck]

Strathclyde (who else) insisted it was recorded on my FAC as it was for an S1 shotgun!

"Hatsan 12 G and spare barrel"!

[Demonic69]

Technically there's no such thing as a section 1 shotgun, it's a firearm and you can shorten the barrel if you like (and you have a slot for it). "Shotgun" almost exclusively refers to section 2 in the guidance as I read it.

[Chuck]

Glad you didn't use Strathclyde as it was. Finnicky to say the least.

At any rate, they wanted it noted and it was done - it came with a spare barrel anyway (24") 26" was standard.

[Mattnall]

Technically there's no such thing as a section 1 shotgun, it's a firearm and you can shorten the barrel if you like (and you have a slot for it). "Shotgun" almost exclusively refers to section 2 in the guidance as I read it.

Section 1 of the FA also covers short barrelled shotguns (single shot or double barrelled) and shotguns with a detachable magazine and/or those with semi-auto/pump actions with an internal magazine holding more than 2 rounds.
Section 1 shotguns are also Section 1 firearms.

Try shortening your 11-87 5-shot and see where that gets you.

[Demonic69]

But where does it it specifically say you can't shorten a section 1 shotgun? From what I've read they're treated just the same as the rest of section 1.
I could be wrong though

[Sandgroper]

But where does it it specifically say you can't shorten a section 1 shotgun? From what I've read they're treated just the same as the rest of section 1.
I could be wrong though

IMO, you can - as long as it isn't a pump action or semi-auto. P/A and S/A S1 shotguns are constrained by having to have a 24 inch minimum barrel length and a minimum OAL of 40 inches. All other S1 shotguns are covered by the 12/24 rule for all S1 firearms.

[Grima]

I own a S1 SBS shotgun.
To get this on my ticket I had to buy a manufactured short barrelled shotgun. They wouldn't let me cut down a S2 shotgun as they said it had to be as it was made???

Yet all pumps & semi's are made S1 then converted to S2

Yet you can convert a pump & semi back to S1 by a RFD

In law a shotgun barrel that has no serial number is a "METAL TUBE" simple as that. I can buy & post in the normal post as it's only a tube??

What are you trying to do to the barrel? what's the end result?

[breacher]

I wanted to convert a section 2 shotgun to section 1 and enter it on my FAC rather than put it on a SGC.

However, it appears that although a shotgun barrel is not a component part and is as already stated just a steel tube, it is still illegal according to the letter of the law to shorten it to a length less than 24"

No doubt someone COULD test the wording of the law by cutting down a barrel and claiming that the law refers to complete shotguns and not to barrels alone. Then a judge could decide how the wording should be interpreted.

However nobody has tried that yet ( as far as my research is concerned ) so in the absence of case law, one has to adhere to the current interpretation of the wording.

In short you can own a shotgun barrel without fac or sgc but you are not free to cut it up !!

[Grima]

A rifle barrel is classed as a component part because it has rifleing

A shotgun barrel is classed as a metal tube

Sorry should have read the first post.

I have been down that road & tried, so I had to buy one with short barrels to keep plod happy

Good luck in court, the laws are so "muddled up", that's a nice way of saying FU*KED UP

[breacher]

A rifle barrel is classed as a component part because it has rifleing

A shotgun barrel is classed as a metal tube

Sorry should have read the first post.

But as it stands, the firearms act tells us that is a steel tube we cannot cut less than 24" wtfwtf