What's the damage likely to be?

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#1 Post by **Dark Skies** » Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:50 pm

Bought a Pietta .44 Remington New Model Army distance buying via Guntrader last week.
“An as new stainless New Model Army comes in original box ... Great starter kit for not much money.”
Took it with me to the nearest stockist with a view to getting the best fitting caps and some powder and it transpires it's far from an 'as new' example. Apparently it's been dry fired so enthusiastically the nipples have gone cone-shaped as well as arsing up the hammer. Also has slight cylinder timing issues.

Had I not been a newbie and knew what the nipples ought to look like I'd most likely not have taken delivery - but I am and I did so it's on my FAC now.

Had to leave it with the shop to have their gunsmith take a peep at it - guestimate of around the £130 mark for nipples, new hammer and a look at the timing. I just wondered if anyone has recently had similar work done and if that price sounds about right or if I ought to budget for more bad news.

In the meantime have emailed the RFD that sold it. Not feeling too chipper to be honest.

ArcofZen · #2 Post by **ArcofZen** » Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:58 pm

I don't know anything about these firearms, but £130 for that amount of work sounds good to me. Even if it's cash you should never have had to pay. One to chalk up to experience I guess.

#3 Post by **1066** » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:00 pm

I would think you could get a complete Pietta .44 in good order for that.

A new set of nipples and face off the hammer or fit new and you should be good to go. These pistols are very simple to strip.

http://www.huntingandshootingsports.co. ... em-colt.ir

http://www.henrykrank.com/index.php?mai ... cts_id=623

http://www.henrykrank.com/index.php?mai ... cts_id=626

Here's a pack including hammer, trigger and all the timing bits for £35

http://www.henrykrank.com/index.php?mai ... ts_id=8586

#4 Post by **Dark Skies** » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:11 pm

1066 wrote:I would think you could get a complete Pietta .44 in good order for that.

A new set of nipples and face off the hammer or fit new and you should be good to go. These pistols are very simple to strip.

http://www.huntingandshootingsports.co. ... em-colt.ir

http://www.henrykrank.com/index.php?mai ... cts_id=623

http://www.henrykrank.com/index.php?mai ... cts_id=626

Here's a pack including hammer, trigger and all the timing bits for £35

http://www.henrykrank.com/index.php?mai ... ts_id=8586

Cheers for that. So with a bit of luck when the gunsmith has it on his bench it shouldn't be too big or costly a job.

#5 Post by **bradaz11** » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:26 pm

that depends if you think it's worth £80 in labour

#6 Post by **Dark Skies** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:33 am

bradaz11 wrote:that depends if you think it's worth £80 in labour

Well, given it was sold as in new condition by the dealer and it obviously isn't I think I'm fairly covered by the protections afforded by Consumer Rights Act 2015 and The Consumer Contracts Regulations 2013.
I'm hoping it's not going to come to a squabble - and the dealer will do the right thing. We'll see. I'l be better placed to know what's best when I hear from him.

#7 Post by **Alpha1** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:11 am

You could fix it your self for about £50 they are not difficult to work on. That does not detract from the fact it should not of been miss sold in that condition.

#8 Post by **Dark Skies** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:58 am

Alpha1 wrote:You could fix it your self for about £50 they are not difficult to work on. That does not detract from the fact it should not of been miss sold in that condition.

I probably could but I don't have the screwdrivers to disassemble it without the risk of mashing the screws up - I don't want to put myself in the position whereby there's a break in continuity.

Were the processing times of variations not so bad in the TVP area I'd be minded just to send it back for a refund, getting it off ticket, then reapplying for a variation for the same calibre. Unfortunately the last one took four months - that'd mean having lost about eight months of my FAC waiting on that calibre. I'm loathe to go through the bother so soon.

With the benefit of hindsight I'd have quite liked to have bought a bit of a beater cheap (saw one for £60 as a spare or repair) if it had a decent barrel and cylinder, bought some decent screwdrivers, plus necessary parts and done a part restoration / part Bulldog mod.
That's for another time now. But it would be a nice project to learn a lot on.

#9 Post by **dromia** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:07 am

Do it yourself it is a doddle, get the parts kit and nipple set use the money you would save on the labour to buy a decent set of screwdrivers which all shooters should have anyway.

If you weren't in such a remote part of the country you could call round and I'd show you how to fit and fettle it.

If you are a you tube abuser then Mike Belliveau's videos will help you along.

#10 Post by **MistAgain** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:07 am

Before you fix it yourself or get your dealer to fix it , give the selling dealer the chance to refund or repair .

TBH , as its a distance sale I would return it for a full refund as its not impossible that it has other issues . The faults you describe could be as a result of an owner playing cowboys and fanning the hammer . So there could be other internal problems.

Send it back and the dealer has to pay the carriage .

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