China and Chinese products

[ovenpaa]

Interestingly, I read an article on a super new knife sharpening system earlier today. It was a price too good to miss so I emailed them and asked where it is produced. I am waiting, with baited breath and a debit card for the answer and you just know it aint going to happen any time soon....

[meles meles]

I wonder what response you'd get from a Chinese manufacturer?

In our, quite recent, experience when querying a test certificate we thought was perhaps a tiny ikkle bit iffy,* the lowest tender supplier obligingly suggested that the certificate could be re-issued saying whatever we needed it to say. We didn't feel that actually resolved the issue satisfactorily, returned the component and took our business elsewhere. We paid a little more for a UK product but had confidence that we were actually getting what its accompanying QC stiffycate said we were getting.


*the quoted content for one element exceeded that proportion that is physically possible according to reputable phase diagrams

[stuarta]

"That’s how they have been able to export to the U.K. respiratory machine, PPE and other goods that are not fit for purpose in recent weeks!"

But surely, as these imported products are for medical/clinical use they have to go through some sort of testing here in the UK in order to be approved for issue?.

That is easily bypassed by the Chines company supplying a sample product that meets the standard and agreeing the price and getting an order. The first delivery is checked for quality but then the Chinese supplier sub contracts the product out and cuts his costs. If you go to his factory everything looks good but you are not getting those products you are getting the sub contract, sub standard ones.
This happened in a working at hight “fall arrester” I inspected after it failed and the climber ended up in a wheel chair. The external looked the same but the internal parts were made of inferior materials.
The ABC of buying from China
A. Assume nothing
B. Believe nothing
C. Confirm everything
If you do that you will probably not buy it because you will have had your eyes opened.

[stuarta]

Not sure how the U.K. flag ended up in my last post, it should not be there

[Hunterboy]

An interesting read available from any good bookseller is “Poorly made in China”. It gives you an insight to the Wild East that is modern China. It is no wonder fortunes are won and lost out there.

[Chuck]

Ovenpaa: first thread - same here. seeing how much I can but that doesn't come from that place.

Interesting thread: so here's the question.

If there was a website of some sort that sold absolutely NOTHING that was made in China and was only from UK (say ) and / or European and American companies - would people be prepared to use it and to PAY for the QUALITY?

I know that the UK has pretty well zero manufacturing for the mass market but there must be PLENTYof UK manufacturing factories still around?

People have become used to cheap Chinese tat - would people buy say Barker shoes instead of some Chinese cheap stuff found in - I was going to say Primark, but they look as if they're going bust.?

What would people want to buy that is currently coming from China

[Plecotus]

The ABC of buying from ANYONE, ANYWHERE
A. Assume nothing
B. Believe nothing
C. Confirm everything
If you do that you will probably not buy it because you will have had your eyes opened.

There you go, I've corrected that for for you. We used to call it "due dilligence". Saves you engaging in all sorts of embarressing things, like contracting ferry companies with no ferries etc.

Caveat emptor is as valuable today as when the words were first written. Shame our government doesn't seem to possess these simple, basic life-skills.

[Pete]

It's not only the government, Plecotus.................

Pete

[TRG-22]

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[TRG-22]

TRG22, where ya been?

Hey TRG-22 I was wondering where you had got to!

Been occupied on other more pressing matters.

And guess what - I'd arranged to go along to a club. Didn't get to go because of some health scare doing the rounds. aaarggh