50/70 Passive smoking

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#1 Post by **jjvc** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:30 pm

Got in a bit of passive smoking on Saturday courtesy of Droomie's 50/70 Springfield Trapdoor conversion.

Nice rifle and nice reloads,

Joe

Tower75 · #2 Post by **Tower75** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:54 pm

Very, very nice. Were the .50/70 cartridges rimfire originally?

What distance were you shooting from and how was accuracy?

Dougan · #3 Post by **Dougan** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:01 pm

Tower.75 wrote:What distance were you shooting from and how was accuracy?

Was just thinking the same Tower :)

Interesting rifle...looks fun to shoot too

#4 Post by **ovenpaa** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:04 pm

Lovely looking rifle

#5 Post by **dromia** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:40 am

She would hold the black on a 100 yrd target at 100 yrds so long as you keep the fouling down. As always it is the sights that are against good group forming on these rifles.

#6 Post by **dromia** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:49 am

The slow twist and consequently shorter boolits means that they are at best a 300 yrd rifle.

Interestingly we had couple of newish shooters with us and they had a bit plink with some of the perverted placcy rifles an SGC straight pull in .223" AIs, TRGs and the like but soon gave up on them as no fun, spending all of the day shooting the older stuff with great relish. When asked why they both said they were far more fun.

I suspect that it also has something to do with the fact that they expect the tinplated and placcy modern stuff to hit the target but don't expect to do so well with the older kit and get a real buzz when they do, they have to work harder to keep their groups and that seems to give them greater reward.

#7 Post by **dromia** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:17 am

Tower.75 wrote:Very, very nice. Were the .50/70 cartridges rimfire originally?

The 50-70 was designed and made as a centrefire cartridge. The US military's experience with rimfire cartridges during the Civil War convinced them that rimfire cases were not up to handling large black powder charges so the 50-70 was developed. Frankford arsenal based their original design on "Martins Centre-Fire" system using an internal primer. The first standard issue Army centre-fire cartridge was known as the "Frankford", the Army knew the round as "The US Regulation Center Fire Cartridge", we know it as the 50-70 or the 50-70 Government.

#8 Post by **dromia** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:52 am

BTW Joe, you may reload but I hand load.

:lol:

#9 Post by **jjvc** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:18 am

What hand loads are you taking on Thursday? :ugeek:

Tower75 · #10 Post by **Tower75** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:28 am

The "trapdoor" went through three chambering, didn't it?

Am I right in saying that the first was a .50-odd calibre rimfire cartridge, then the .50/70, then the fabled .45/70?

Also, aren't .50/70 Springfields less common then .45/70s?

Regards
T

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