Belgium Pinfire Revolver

[millemigliadave]

Sorry to hear you didn't get it fixed - just a quick thought.. if you hold the revolver with the barrel pointing at the floor and then cock the hammer, does the cylinder rotate to the correct position?

[Tony]

Thank you for the suggestion Dave, no it doesn't, however with help of Google Images I think I have found the problem

In the photo, the cylinder on the left is mine, the one on the right clearly shows sharper features for indexing

[1066]

Looking at how far that is out of lock-up, I would say that the tip has broken off the "hand" that advances the cylinder.

[Tony]

Thank you 1066 for taking the time to send the diagram, I think you are absolutely correct

It looks like a part that could be machined, but I cannot get the trigger mechanism out, believe me I have tried twice now and probably spent over an hour

There is obviously a knack to it, it looks as if it should come in in an arc, but it gets jammed somewhere, not the end of the world, but it would be nice if I managed to sort out the indexing

[millemigliadave]

Did you compress the trigger spring when you tried to remove the trigger? its the V shaped spring that lies in the front of the frame. That makes it easier from what I recall. You may be able to put something like a hex nut on top and compress with an engineers vice. I managed to do it with pliers but it was a faff...

Dave

[Tony]

Hi Dave, yes I have removed that spring, everything is loose, it just won't come out

I thought at one point maybe the pin attaching the hand to the trigger had moved and that was the issue, but for one, I can't see the pin, it is too far in side, secondly, I don't think there is room for the pin to move, if it had I think there would be resistance, but as I said everything is loose

It is almost as if the hand has to be removed from the trigger first, but that looks to be impossible

[Tony]

So, having made several attempts to build up the top of the Hand with plastic metal, I now have it indexing perfectly, I need to make a new one 1.8mm longer
However I still have to get the Hand out of the revolver first
Has anyone managed this on the type of revolver that I have?
Thank you

[millemigliadave]

I've dismantled mine a couple of times, it differs from yours only in that it has a trigger guard and non folding trigger. With everything else removed I cannot see what would prevent the trigger and hand from being removed. I wonder if the missing end of the hand is stuck inside but its not a complicated shape internally so seems unlikely. The HLE book I linked to earlier has great images showing the disassembly process. There may be others on you tube somewhere ?

[Tony]

Thank you Dave
I have searched Google Images and YouTube for hours and hours and cannot find anything with such a small slot beneath for the trigger as mine has
I have taken dozens of photos from every conceivable angle and enlarged them on my laptop in case I have missed something, everything is so loose, it should fall out
I am wondering if the Hand was attached to the trigger first and then because of the tight tolerances the whole mechanism was ‘forced’ into position with lubrication and a wooden mallet, there is no way that I can seen this coming out as is
However I can’t believe that I am the first to work on the design of this particular revolver

[millemigliadave]

Can you post an image of the trigger/slot so we can see? These were hand made/finished and I suspect not particularly expensive so what you describe may well be the case. If so, it may be that judicious use of force to extract it would be the way...... where are you based? I'd be happy to help if nearby.