Armtac RS-1 Shotgun.....it's a Saiga!!!

[markd290]

Has anybody here heard about Calibre Innovations apparently bringing in a version of the Armsan RS-S1 with a 20" barrel and a 4" brake permanently attached to bring it up to the legal minimum length?

[Blackstuff]

I haven't but they'd be onto a winner if they did! Well, providing they don't muck it up like they did with the CMR-30's that is, and do something equally daft like have the muzzle brake too big to allow the handguard to be changed or something

[markd290]

I haven't but they'd be onto a winner if they did! Well, providing they don't muck it up like they did with the CMR-30's that is, and do something equally daft like have the muzzle brake too big to allow the handguard to be changed or something

I completely agree, it'd be a big improvement and would make the gun look much better. I'd definitely put my name down for one. I've dropped them an email to see if they could tell me anything about it

What ever happened with them bringing in the CMR-30 anyway? I remember hearing about it ages ago but I haven't heard anything since

[Blackstuff]

I presume the less than jubilant response they got to the prototype put them off? Who knows.

Would love to find out if it was Keltec or CI idea to have the welded on muzzle brake...

[Sim G]

I shot one of their 9mm straight pull ARs as a bloke in the club had one. It was w@nk. Hopefully Lantac or SGC will offer something in this genre instead....

[Dellboy]

I shot one of their 9mm straight pull ARs as a bloke in the club had one. It was w@nk. Hopefully Lantac or SGC will offer something in this genre instead....

i think Nick who took over from bradders was looking at 9mm or pretty sure Dave at Valkerie would do one

[markd290]

Well Calibre have emailed me back and have said they aren't importing the guns with a 20" barrel and a welded brake, seems it was just a rumour. I don't see why it couldn't be done though, surely an importer could get Armsan to make a run of them, it would be a simple thing to do at the factory.

Failing that, does anybody know of a gunsmith here in the UK who could chop the barrel down to about 19"-20", rethread it for chokes and then weld on a brake to bring it up to 24" long?

[Sim G]

Failing that, does anybody know of a gunsmith here in the UK who could chop the barrel down to about 19"-20", rethread it for chokes and then weld on a brake to bring it up to 24" long?

Any competent gunsmith could theoretically perform the job, but legally, can only shorten the barrel in order to repair it, and with that repair bringing the length back to 24" minimum.

[markd290]

Failing that, does anybody know of a gunsmith here in the UK who could chop the barrel down to about 19"-20", rethread it for chokes and then weld on a brake to bring it up to 24" long?

Any competent gunsmith could theoretically perform the job, but legally, can only shorten the barrel in order to repair it, and with that repair bringing the length back to 24" minimum.

Anybody you could recommend? Obviously somebody with experience working on PSG style guns as I'd probably want to get a few other bits done to it at the same time.

The firearms act is pretty loose in that it says it's legal to shorten it to replace a defective section of the barrel, but it doesn't say what could be considered defective, meaning it could be almost anything really

[MistAgain]

I think you may find that plod would make the rules on what is defective .

Proof house may have some thoughts on that as well .